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4th May 2022
04:35pm BST

Olivia responded: "Hunters take pride in making sure that the weapon they’ve chosen, the bullet that they’ve selected is going to have the quickest death to their life."
"That one didn’t," Holly then said.
"But you also have to look at nature. What does nature’s death look like? He’s either going to get stabbed by another bull, he may be poached, or he may starve," Olivia added.
'It’s a bit more of a fair playing field in nature though, isn’t it?" Holly asked.
"Nature is going to put disease forth and you’re going to have hundreds of elephants that were killed just this year because of overpopulation," Olivia argued.
"Where do you stop then?" Phil then added. "If you’re saying, “Nature now has no place in the animal kingdom, all of these animals are going to die anyway so we may as well just kill them.”"
Giles Clark, Director of The Big Cat Sanctuary in Kent also appeared on the show, and argued that Olivia’s point that killing an older bull would not have an impact on the herd was incorrect, saying that studies show they have a huge impact.Explore more on these topics: